I hear from so many people that programmers and talent try to emboss their stations on the streets, at events, in the community and they are being told no by promotions/marketing people. Opinionated marginal management who are members of what Ken Anderson (KBWF Mornings) and I call Anti-Productive World. They don't want to spend the time and resources, which I agree are limited to zero these days. But "no". That's pretty blunt and really not a part of a winning station's vocabulary. Step back and find another way to accomplish what you want. If a door is locked, go through the window. "I've been in this business long enough to know you can loose the battle and still win the war". Barry Champlain - Talk Radio. Wow does that apply to losing some and winning the big one. Find a give and take, a way to make it work with all of the departments you come in daily contact with.